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Thursday, May 5, 2011

Did Bin Laden Defeat The United States?


Ezra Klein
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Posted at 08:56 AM ET, 05/03/2011

Bin Laden’s war against the U.S. economy


(Koji Sasahara - AP)
Did Osama bin Laden win? No. Did he succeed? Well, America is still standing, and he isn’t. So why, when I called Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, a counterterrorism expert who specializes in al-Qaeda, did he tell me that “bin Laden has been enormously successful”? There’s no caliphate. There’s no sweeping sharia law. Didn’t we win this one in a clean knockout?
Apparently not. Bin Laden, according to Gartenstein-Ross, had a strategy that we never bothered to understand, and thus that we never bothered to defend against. What he really wanted to do — and, more to the point, what he thought he could do — was bankrupt the United States of America. After all, he’d done the bankrupt-a-superpower thing before. And though it didn’t quite work out this time, it worked a lot better than most of us, in this exultant moment, are willing to admit.
Bin Laden’s transition from scion of a wealthy family to terrorist mastermind came in the 1980s, when the Soviet Union was trying to conquer Afghanistan. Bin Laden was part of the resistance, and the resistance was successful — not only in repelling the Soviet invasion, but in contributing to the communist super-state’s collapse a few years later. “We, alongside the mujaheddin, bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt,” he later explained.
The campaign taught bin Laden a lot. For one thing, superpowers fall because their economies crumble, not because they’re beaten on the battlefield. For another, superpowers are so allergic to losing that they’ll bankrupt themselves trying to conquer a mass of rocks and sand. This was bin Laden’s plan for the United States, too.
“He has compared the United States to the Soviet Union on numerous occasions — and these comparisons have been explicitly economic,” Gartenstein-Ross argues in a Foreign Policy article. “For example, in October 2004 bin Laden said that just as the Arab fighters and Afghan mujaheddin had destroyed Russia economically, al Qaeda was now doing the same to the United States, ‘continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy.’ ”
For bin Laden, in other words, success was not to be measured in body counts. It was to be measured in deficits, in borrowing costs, in investments we weren’t able to make in our country’s continued economic strength. And by those measures, bin Laden landed a lot of blows.
Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz estimates that the price tag on the Iraq War alone will surpass $3 trillion. Afghanistan likely amounts to another trillion or two. Add in the build-up in homeland security spending since 9/11 and you’re looking at yet another trillion. And don’t forget the indirect costs of all this turmoil: The Federal Reserve, worried about a fear-induced recession, slashed interest rates after the attack on the World Trade Center, and then kept them low to combat skyrocketing oil prices, a byproduct of the war in Iraq. That decade of loose monetary policy may well have contributed to the credit bubble that crashed the economy in 2007 and 2008.
Then there’s the post-9/11 slowdown in the economy, the time wasted in airports, the foregone returns on investments we didn’t make, the rise in oil prices as a result of the Iraq War, the cost of rebuilding Ground Zero, health care for the first responders and much, much more.
But it isn’t quite right to say bin Laden cost us all that money. We decided to spend more than a trillion dollars on homeland security measures to prevent another attack. We decided to invade Iraq as part of a grand, post-9/11 strategy of Middle Eastern transformation. We decided to pass hundreds of billions of dollars in unpaid-for tax cuts and add an unpaid-for prescription drug benefit in Medicare while we were involved in two wars. And now, partially though not entirely because of these actions, we are deep in debt. Bin Laden didn’t — couldn’t — bankrupt us. He could only provoke us into bankrupting ourselves. And he came pretty close.
It’s a smart play against a superpower. We didn’t need to respond to 9/11 by trying to reshape the entire Middle East, but we’re a superpower, and we think on that scale. We didn’t need to respond to failed attempts to smuggle bombs onto airplanes through shoes and shampoo bottles by screening all footwear and banning large shampoo bottles, but we’re a superpower, and our tolerance for risk is extremely low. His greatest achievement was getting our psychology at least somewhat right.
In the end, of course, bin Laden was just another bag of meat and bones, hiding in a walled compound in Pakistan, so deeply afraid of death that he tried to use his wife as a shield when the special forces came for him. But he understood the mind of the superpower well enough to use our capabilities against us. He may not have won, but he did succeed, at least partially.
But then, we can learn from our mistakes. He can’t.
By Ezra Klein  |  08:56 AM ET, 05/03/2011

 
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beecheery
Still buying into your "boyfriend's" propaganda about Osama hiding behind his wife firing off his AK. Seems Osama was executed under orders from Obama, infront of his 12 year old daughter and no gun. O.K. by me. But think of the outrage if GW had done all this, starting with Ezra's.

Osama won a great victory. With a small rag tag group of goat herders Osama bankrupted the only Super Power, poisoned its politics( using you and other libs), tempted the simple GW into pointless Nation building, which has been taken up by a foolish Narcisist and aroused the Islamic world. Not bad for an effeminate playboy. Well, Hitler was a paper hanger and Stalin a bank robber.

Osama will be remembered long after all of us are dust. Osama's importance to the history of the USA will be much greater than Obama's or GW's. All three having helped bring down the Republic in their own ways.
 
5/4/2011 10:35:12 PM PDT
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BHBF
The Soviet Union was NOT trying to conquer Afghanistan.

http://www.counterpunch.org/brzezinski.html

Zbigniew Brzezinski:
How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen

Interview of Zbigniew Brzezinski Le Nouvel Observateur (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p. 76*

Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

Brzezinski: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followe
5/4/2011 4:22:06 PM PDT
phinneyridgekid1
I read "Imperial Hubris," by Michael Scheuer, former Director of the CIA's Bin Laden Unit, who said destroying the U.S. economy was a big part of Bin Laden's strategy against us -- and that by invading Iraq, we played right into Bin Laden's hands. By launching the war in Iraq, we practically gave Osama Bin Laden a gift. BTW, "Imperial Hubris" was published in 2005.
5/4/2011 8:34:07 AM PDT
Adam_Smith
"The Federal Reserve, worried about a fear-induced recession, slashed interest rates after the attack on the World Trade Center, and then kept them low to combat skyrocketing oil prices, a byproduct of the war in Iraq. That decade of loose monetary policy may well have contributed to the credit bubble that crashed the economy in 2007 and 2008."

All true but it omits the role of Fed policy in trying to lighten the burden on the economy of financing the wars on credit instead of with taxes. New taxes would have hurt too but at least there would have been less easy money to inflate the real estate bubble. Given that wars cannot be fought for free, taxes and higher energy costs would almost certainly have been the lesser evil. 
5/4/2011 7:51:45 AM PDT
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fach44
I thought this was his point from the beginning to break our economy....that's why they attacked the twin towers to strike at the heart of our economy and that's why President Bush told us to go out and shop.
5/4/2011 6:35:20 AM PDT
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Rivery
Duh!
Thank you for articulating what's been in my head for nearly 10 years.
5/4/2011 4:59:16 AM PDT
abudu
Amazing how America always uses the act of cowardliness as the last insult. Fact is the special forces raided and killed a man who was by his own admission innocent of allegedly master minding 911. Like all of the rest he once was supported by or liked by the U.S. until his usefulness got used up. So he was next inline to be used or murdered to justify a democratic cause or advancement.
5/3/2011 10:25:41 PM PDT
goofinonelvis
Gee I guess Reagan and John Paul II had nothing to do with it. It was the economic genius OBL. I knew he was also behind those derivitives and junk bonds.

Thanks for such an insightful column.
5/3/2011 8:54:35 PM PDT
RRegas
I agree and disagree with Daveed. Yes, Bin Laden aimed to wound us economically. After all, he went after the WTC and not City Hall, or some other NY institution. I think it is foolish to believe that Bin Laden thought that the destruction of the WTC mean ruining our economic present or future. The move was a symbolic one, aimed at demoralizing us. By changing our way of life, through the instillation of fear, he forced our nation to take measures it never had to take before. The added security agencies and security measures at our ports, airports, installations, all cost a great deal of money between the infrastructure, equipment and personnel required to run them. However, those costs, as high as they are, are not bankrupting in and of themselves. The war in Afganistan, as costly as it has been in lives and material, in and of itself is not bankrupting us. What is bankrupting us is the frittering away of our moral contract with our fellow countrymen, and the pseudo-moral contract cloaked into the foreign policy we have maintained for the last 30 years, and more specifically, since the Bush administration. Our trade woes come not from the wars we are currently embroiled in, but from the wars our corporate oligarchy is waging on American citizens. We wouldn't be bankrupt or well underway, if US corporations paid half the taxes that European corporations pay in their home countries, even with three ongoing wars. So, did Osama win? Yes. He has us running scared. He has us patting babies down at the airport. He has us on high alert in foreign lands and in the high seas. You just watch and see how long (measured in years) it will take to leave Iraq and Afganistan.
5/3/2011 6:26:06 PM PDT
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ankhorite
Great column, Ezra, thanks for the links -- but you need to correct the paragraph about using his wife. Apparently early reports were wrong.
5/3/2011 6:19:31 PM PDT
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barkwaytoo
Bin Laden stated ON VIDEO many years ago that his goal was to destroy the US economy. For somereason, people (and our government) simply chose NOT to hear him. We stepped right up to the plate and did exactly as he planned...spent ourselves into a hole with endless military aggression. He got exactly what he wanted. His death now is immaterial.
5/3/2011 5:51:23 PM PDT
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rtvest
You sound a bit like Ron Paul on this one, Ezra.
5/3/2011 4:36:59 PM PDT
janinsanfran
It would be nice if we could learn from our mistakes ... but I am not confident. It's no revelation that bankrupting us was OBL's strategy; he said so. And, there aren't a lot of other good strategies if you are out to defeat a superpower.
5/3/2011 3:26:42 PM PDT
patrick8
Greed is what will destroy this country. Wall Street really did a number on the whole world economy with help from both parties, but mainly the Republicans who keep on trying to deregulate everything. From the Teapot Dome Scandal, 1929 Stock Market Crash, Enron, 1987 Savings and Loan Scandal to the current situation. All started out as Republican ideas with Democratic approval. They claim it's good capitalism but let companies merge together so there is no competition. Look at At&T, broke them up in the 80's and now it is almost back to it's former self. Congress let the drug, defense, oil, banks, and insurance merge together so there is barely any competition anymore. That's not capitalism. In the end, greed will destroy our country as it gets worse and big companies keep reaming the normal taxpayer.
5/3/2011 3:02:12 PM PDT
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LaDonna53
What I don't get is that we have all this high tech military systems and we can't get out of this war.
Who is funding them?
5/3/2011 1:14:17 PM PDT
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