Wednesday, January 12, 2011
Home price drops exceed Great Depression: Zillow | Reuters
Thursday, December 30, 2010
Housing Prices Will Drop Another 20% In The USA
GARY SHILLING: And Now House Prices Will Now Drop Another 20%
Image: A Gary Shilling & Co. |
Yes, with mortgage rates so low, houses look "cheap". And for a while this seemed to be helping...
Earlier this year, sales of existing homes skyrocketed (temporarily)
And housing starts finally bottomed
And house prices seem to have bottomed, too. But...
Don't forget about unemployment. Old measures of "affordability" no longer apply...
Mortgage refinancings are up, and they're helping, but most homeowners can't refinance
And don't forget that we now have MUCH TIGHTER lending requirements -- so much so that Fannie and Freddie and FHA now have to underwrite almost all mortgages
And now everyone knows that house prices CAN actually fall
And then there's the still-massive number of foreclosures, which will keep pressure on prices
The percent of mortgages past due is still climbing...
The number of bank-owned houses is still climbing (more future inventory)
Mortgage delinquencies are linked to job losses... and the number of weekly unemployment claims is still too high
"Distressed" sales are still high (prices slashed to move inventory)
The homeownership rate (percent of households that are homeowners) continues to decline, probably headling back to its long-term average
Meanwhile, household formation is lower than it was during the boom
As they lose their jobs and houses, many Americans are "doubling up"--moving in with friends and relatives. This further reduces demand for housing.
by renting houses and apartments, but many of those and other discouraged folks are shrinking
households—and adding to vacant housing units—by doubling up with family and friends.
The number of houses for sale is still abnormally high... and house prices, like everything else, are a function of supply and demand
When you count "shadow inventory", the imbalance looks even worse
THE BOTTOM LINE: House prices probably have another 20% to fall
If house prices DO fall another 20%, a lot more homeowner equity will be wiped out
No wonder REALTORS are so depressed
Fannie and Freddie are ending up owning more and more foreclosed houses (at taxpayer expense). This is prolonging the problem...
Given all this, it's not surprising that few folks are planning to buy new houses...
And that new mortgage applications remain back at 1990s levels
And that the number of people planning to buy a house in the next six months continues to drop
Depressed yet? We are, too. But at least, as a Business Insider reader, you'll get a discount on Gary Shilling's research...
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/gary-shilling-and-now-house-prices-will-now-drop-another-20-2010-12?slop=1#slideshow-start#ixzz19abx7IyN
Tuesday, April 6, 2010
Houses In THe US Face A Further Steep Decline In Price
Thursday, January 21, 2010
Fund Manager Warns Against Double Dip In Housing Prices
Manager guards against housing double-dip
Forester predicted 2008's crash, and sees another coming soon
By Sam Mamudi, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Tom Forester is worried about another fall in the housing market -- and given his track record, it's worth listening to his concerns.
Forester predicted the most recent housing crash, positioning his Forester Value Fund(FVALX 11.88, -0.09, -0.75%) to ride out the expected downturn. That approach worked, as the stock fund was up 0.4% in 2008.
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Now Forester is preparing for another crash, forecasting a 10%-20% fall in house prices this year and arranging his portfolio accordingly.
"We think there's big risk in 2010" for investors, said Forester. "Our finger is on the trigger to get more defensive, but the timing on this is hard."
Forester's earlier prediction meant his investors didn't lose money in 2008, when the Standard & Poor's 500 Index(SPX 1,138, -12.19, -1.06%) was down about 37%.
Forester Value made 18% last year, lagging the index as it typically does in rising markets. But as a result of losing less than the average, the portfolio's returns are in the top 1% of its category for three years, top 3% for five years and top 8% for 10 years, with annualized returns of 5.7% over the decade, according to Morningstar Inc.
House of cards
Forester believes that the next housing decline will start in the second quarter of the year. He said several factors, including expiring government support programs and falling demand, will lead to the drop.
One of the causes will be the government's Home Affordable Modification Program, which allowed trial modifications of loans that would keep homes out of foreclosure. But, said Forester, very few of the modifications have been made permanent -- about 7% according to latest figures -- and that means there'll be many homes facing foreclosure this year.
Forester also pointed out that existing home sales fell 16% in November -- a worrying sign that may suggest programs like the First Time Homebuyer credit have run out of gas. December's existing sales numbers will be released on Jan. 25.
He highlighted another factor that could mean trouble in the housing the market -- the Federal Reserve's plan to end its programs of buying mortgage-backed securities and debt from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The programs are set to end by April 1, and Forester thinks it could mean mortgage rates rise by roughly 0.75%-1%.
"And if rates are at 6%, it becomes harder to buy a home or refinance a mortgage," he said -- further depressing the housing market.
The real problem with this scenario, said Forester, is the impact it will have on banks.
"Banks are still valuing homes too highly on their balance sheets so they are vulnerable to a downturn in home prices again," he wrote in a quarterly update earlier this month, and this vulnerability could set off a similar downward spiral in the financial markets that was seen in late 2008.
"I think the TARP repayments were a bad idea," said Forester, because they could leave banks short of funds if a second housing crash does hit.
Forester said he's readying for a downturn by holding about 15% in cash and keeping defensive stocks in his portfolio. As of Dec. 31, some of the fund's largest holdings included 3M Co. (MMM 85.06, +0.34, +0.40%), Microsoft Corp. (MSFT 30.54, -0.05, -0.15%)and Chevron Corp. (CVX 78.14, -0.01, -0.01%).
While Forester believes there will be a downturn in the next three to six months, he admitted his dire predictions may not happen, especially if the government takes further action, such as extending existing programs, or introducing new measures, to steady the housing market.
And though he was right about the 2008 crash, he was also a couple of years early. His fund took a defensive stance in 2006 and as a result underperformed the market by double-digit percentage points in 2006 and 2007, with returns of 3.4% and a loss of 5.2%, respectively.
Said Forester about the timing of his latest prediction: "Nothing matters until it matters."
Sam Mamudi is a reporter for MarketWatch, based in New York
Wednesday, January 6, 2010
Friday, January 1, 2010
Let Housing Prices Fall Naturally
To paraphrase Yogi Berra, the bubble's not over till the last drop splatters. That is certainly the case with the housing bubble. Home prices that seemed to be strengthening over the summer have again slipped, according to the S&P Case-Shiller index. Neither low interest rates nor a fat tax credit for homebuyers has changed this reality.
For the record, the city that took the biggest hit in 2009 was Las Vegas, where prices fell 27 percent. Denver took the smallest hit -- prices there slid a tiny tenth of one percent.
Some worry that home prices are headed for a double dip and want Washington to do something about it. We should worry that Washington takes their advice.
First off, falling prices are not all bad. They obviously make housing more affordable. The bubble sent prices so high that people who refused to borrow recklessly couldn't purchase a home. Every now and then, the prudent deserve a reward.
The crash in house prices has helped struggling industrial states in the Midwest and Northeast to retain some of their population. New York, New Jersey, Ohio and Michigan are among the states that probably would have lost more people to the Sunbelt had their residents been able to sell their homes at acceptable prices. (The industry's unromantic term for the phenomenon is "house arrest.")
This could have some political consequences: The 2010 census will be used to reapportion membership in the House of Representatives. It won't prevent the Northern states and Louisiana from losing seats -- or the Sunbelt and Washington state from gaining them. But it could slow the transfer of political power across regions.
The bubble's not over till it's over, and there's no way to slow its disintegration that doesn't involve innocent taxpayers. The federal government may have had a valid role in stabilizing prices in the middle of the near-financial collapse of over a year ago. But those days of panic are well past.
True, one in four mortgages is underwater -- it's higher than the value of the house. Further drops in house prices undoubtedly will send more mortgages into the drink. But stocks have staged a big recovery, job losses have slowed, and consumers are more confident that the economy will improve. The good news can counter the bad.
Tighter lending standards at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration will work against higher house prices, but what should we do about that? Insist that they continue backing the sort of risky mortgages that got us into this trouble?
If Washington wants to bring buyers into the market, the simplest thing would be to announce that the hefty tax credit for homebuyers will not be renewed when it expires next spring. Everyone should also be reminded that the Federal Reserve Bank has vowed to end its program to keep mortgage rates low by March 31. That interest rates have already started climbing should stand as a warning to laid-back house shoppers of what lies ahead.
A change in consumer mentality can somewhat cushion the economy from additional slips in house prices. Much of the public has stopped regarding a house as a no-fail investment and the equity in it as mad money to be blown on every whim. The home is again a place to live, so a rise or fall in its value is chiefly the concern of those who plan to move.
The federal government's job now is to put in force new financial regulations that will prevent future sorrow. While it can't stop a bubble that's bursting, it can stop one from forming.